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Some San Onofre Whelen 2810s and 2806s are being removed ,but most are staying

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:54 am
by Duderocks5539
I got an email from the director of emergency planning at SONGS since I know her very well. And she told me that it seems that the jurisdictions want to keep the sirens for like tsunamis and other natural disasters. But she did tell me that a state park that has 3 sirens doesn't want them since they aren't in a populated enough area. But other then that ,the ones in San Juan Capistrano ,Dana Point ,San Clemente and the 10 on Camp Pendleton will remain in place after June 30th 2019 ,which is the date that SONGS will no longer maintain the system ,meaning the cities will half to maintain them now. The sirens have always have been activated by the cities but maintained by SONGS ,but now they will be maintained and tested by the cities. And since they will not be nuclear sirens anymore ,we wont see them tested annually most likely when the cities take over completely. The sirens haven't been fully blasted since October 15th 2014 since the SONGS decommissioning has been approved leading to the sirens no longer needing to be tested at full blast. So starting in 2015 the sirens have only been booped/growled ,which is sounding it at full volume for half a second. But since they will still remain and be used as tsunami sirens now ,we will most likely see full blasts again. When they were nuclear sirens ,they did 3 ,3 minute alert blasts at 10:00 AM ,11:00 AM and 12:00 PM Annually in October until 2014. Now they will probably be tested monthly but probably for only a 1 ,1 or maybe 3 minute alert. They might do attack since Huntington's T-128s and 2001-SRNs do ,and they might want to do a similar test. But either way ,its good to see that most of the Whelens ,-3 will still be in place. As soon as I get more information from the director of emergency planning like what the jurisdictions plan on doing like with testing and signals ,I will let you guys now. But for now ,this is all the info I can tell you.

Re: San Onofre Whelen 2810s and 2806s not being removed

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 10:11 am
by insertusernamehere94
Thats awesome about the Whelens. Do you know whats gonna happen with the TBolts?

Re: San Onofre Whelen 2810s and 2806s not being removed

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:07 pm
by Duderocks5539
insertusernamehere94 wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 10:11 am
Thats awesome about the Whelens. Do you know whats gonna happen with the TBolts?
They will probably be removed when the plant is dismantled is about 5 years. The Tbolts arent tied in with the system of Whelens though ,they are on their own system and I believe they are both activated through a AF timer. They are the main evacuation sirens for workers at SONGS ,they are still tested when they do evacuation drills which I believe is every 4 or 5 months.

Re: San Onofre Whelen 2810s and 2806s not being removed

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:49 pm
by insertusernamehere94
Duderocks5539 wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:07 pm
insertusernamehere94 wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 10:11 am
Thats awesome about the Whelens. Do you know whats gonna happen with the TBolts?
They will probably be removed when the plant is dismantled is about 5 years. The Tbolts arent tied in with the system of Whelens though ,they are on their own system and I believe they are both activated through a AF timer. They are the main evacuation sirens for workers at SONGS ,they are still tested when they do evacuation drills which I believe is every 4 or 5 months.

Oh wow I need to go see that! Is there any footage of them?
I might try and get one of the TBolts when theyre taken down.

Re: San Onofre Whelen 2810s and 2806s not being removed

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 7:50 pm
by Duderocks5539
The director of emergency planning told me she’ll let me know when they are tested again, I believe she told me they might be able to sound them off for a special test for me. And regarding video there isn’t any. But she told me when they are tested ,they do a 1 minute alert. I believe they used to do hi lo though.

Re: San Onofre Whelen 2810s and 2806s not being removed

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:06 am
by jacob585
I am sad to see those thunderbolts and whelens go, but I am kind of releaved because if the San Andreas goes that plant goes with it and we have another fukashima.

Re: San Onofre Whelen 2810s and 2806s not being removed

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:48 am
by Trey
jacob585 wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:06 am
I am sad to see those thunderbolts and whelens go, but I am kind of releaved because if the San Andreas goes that plant goes with it and we have another fukashima.
How do you figure that will equal Fukushima? The plant is in decommissioning stages. Fukushima was a fully functioning power plant and was online up until the earthquake.

Re: San Onofre Whelen 2810s and 2806s not being removed

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 3:15 am
by jacob585
Trey wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:48 am
jacob585 wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:06 am
I am sad to see those thunderbolts and whelens go, but I am kind of releaved because if the San Andreas goes that plant goes with it and we have another fukashima.
How do you figure that will equal Fukushima? The plant is in decommissioning stages. Fukushima was a fully functioning power plant and was online up until the earthquake.
I meant if it was still fully active it could cause another fukushima or something close to that if it was fully active and the "big one" happened

Re: San Onofre Whelen 2810s and 2806s not being removed

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:02 am
by Chem_Boffin_6589
jacob585 wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 3:15 am
Trey wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:48 am
jacob585 wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:06 am
I am sad to see those thunderbolts and whelens go, but I am kind of releaved because if the San Andreas goes that plant goes with it and we have another fukashima.
How do you figure that will equal Fukushima? The plant is in decommissioning stages. Fukushima was a fully functioning power plant and was online up until the earthquake.
I meant if it was still fully active it could cause another fukushima or something close to that if it was fully active and the "big one" happened
Big what and how? And besides, Fukushima didn't suffer any major leakage. It was the best that could happen in that situation. With what you're saying you might as well close all power plants in coastal areas "in case the big one happens", but since Japan still operates nuclear plants on the coast, where they have more risk, I think it would be pretty safe to say that not much will happen on the US coast.

Re: San Onofre Whelen 2810s and 2806s not being removed

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:04 pm
by Duderocks5539
jacob585 wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:06 am
I am sad to see those thunderbolts and whelens go, but I am kind of releaved because if the San Andreas goes that plant goes with it and we have another fukashima.
Only 3 are being removed ,the remaning 49 are staying.