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Model j

Sat Oct 04, 2014 1:44 am

Hey guys. I know nothing about these things but someone gave me a federal model j. I tried finding info online about it and I find nothing. Just was wondering if anyone had some general info on it and if it has any value. Hope this was right forum to ask. Thanks

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Re: Model j

Sat Oct 04, 2014 2:24 am

In my eyes, they are pretty rare. They are ran off (?)220AC/230DC(?) and the housing is basically similar in form to a Model L. Also, they use the same chopper as a Model A.
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Re: Model j

Sat Oct 04, 2014 2:51 am

They were made from the 30s to the early 50s, I think. They've got the same internals as a Model A and are pretty hard to find these days. They're defined by a skinny, straight intake and a wide output bell flare.
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Re: Model j

Sat Oct 04, 2014 3:00 am

Here is a picture of it and the name plate
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Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:20 pm

Oh my, I have never seen a Model J like that!
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Re: Model j

Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:11 pm

Does it have any value? There is nothing out there about these!

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Re: Model j

Wed Oct 08, 2014 1:22 am

This siren is actually a Model "A". I'm serious. Federal added the wrong ID plate (tag) on this siren when it was manufactured. Do not run this siren on 240/250 volts. This one will run on 120 volts only. Also, I'm guessing this one was made in the 1970's.
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Re: Model j

Wed Oct 08, 2014 1:50 am

TrainsAndSirens1 wrote:This siren is actually a Model "A". I'm serious. Federal added the wrong ID plate (tag) on this siren when it was manufactured. Do not run this siren on 240/250 volts. This one will run on 120 volts only. Also, I'm guessing this one was made in the 1970's.
You do realize that the Model A and Model J are identically the same as far as noise-making parts are concerned, right? The only thing that differentiates the Model A and Model J is that the J has a heavier-duty motor in it to be able to withstand applications that require prolonged or continuous use of the siren whereas a standard Model A's motor would burn out. It's the same situation with the Model D and Model L; the L is just a Model D with a heavy duty motor. Toward the end of the Model J's production, they used the exact same projector and intake as the then-current Model A, so you could no longer visually tell them apart as you could with the earlier models that each had their own different projectors and intakes. The one thing I do agree somewhat on is that he should try it on a lower voltage (120V) first to see what it does, and if it sounds like it's running slow and not getting up to the speed of a normal Model A, then it's a 240V model.

TL;DR: Federal rarely ever puts the wrong information on a siren from the factory, so I highly doubt this is the case. Please do your research before posting information that may possibly be controversial and/or partially incorrect.
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Re: Model j

Wed Oct 08, 2014 1:59 am

TrainsAndSirens1 wrote:This siren is actually a Model "A". I'm serious. Federal added the wrong ID plate (tag) on this siren when it was manufactured. Do not run this siren on 240/250 volts. This one will run on 120 volts only. Also, I'm guessing this one was made in the 1970's.
EDIT Murrfarms beat me to it.
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Re: Model j

Tue Feb 10, 2015 7:45 am

So I'm wanting to get rid of this. This was just something I got while helping an old man clean out his basement. What would be the value? It's just taking up space at my house and I have no use or interest in it.

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