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Does anyone know if the Aca sirens are still made

Wed Jun 08, 2022 2:17 pm

Post here if ACA sirens are still made such as p-10 p-15 p-50 cyclone allertor are still made
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Re: Does anyone know if the Aca sirens are still made

Wed Jun 08, 2022 2:46 pm

No.

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Re: Does anyone know if the Aca sirens are still made

Wed Jun 08, 2022 4:05 pm

wallaat wrote:
Wed Jun 08, 2022 2:17 pm
Post here if ACA sirens are still made such as p-10 p-15 p-50 cyclone allertor are still made
I believe werden got the patent for the P-15 (?) and at some point was still making them/is currently making them rebranded as the P-127. as for the rest they are all discontinued, replaced by ASC's current lineup.
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Re: Does anyone know if the Aca sirens are still made

Wed Jun 08, 2022 4:39 pm

Besides a few variants that Werden manufactured/manufactures (variants of the P-15 and Banshee), ACA sirens are no longer produced. Alerting Communicators of America is now American Signal Corporation and has been since 1992 when ACA went bankrupt. It is discussed on the American Signal Corporation Wikipedia page.
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Re: Does anyone know if the Aca sirens are still made

Thu Jun 09, 2022 7:12 am

ACA went out of business in the 80s or 90s, but ASC continued some of the previous ACA manufactured sirens eg. ACA Cyclone - ASC C-125 and the P20 was renamed to PN-20. Werden has patents for ACA Sirens.

However, back to your question. No. ASC does not make any ACA sirens in their lineup today.

Here is the link to their website with their current lineup: https://www.americansignal.com/outdoor-warning-sirens
Also, Allertor’s were discontinued in the 80s.
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Re: Does anyone know if the Aca sirens are still made

Fri Jun 10, 2022 7:43 pm

ACA went bankrupt in 1992 and was bought by Hormann and was re-branded as ASC in 1994. They re-branded ACA's existing sirens per the buyout and slowly discontinued them over the years.

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Sat Jun 11, 2022 2:34 am

Most of them were discontinued after the company was bought back by Dale Moeller of Excel Alerting Communicators, who, along with Jim Biersach had created the Tempest sirens which were better than the ACA-era sirens. There was no reason to keep making both so ultimately all of the ACA-era sirens were discontinued once better options were made.
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Re: Does anyone know if the Aca sirens are still made

Mon Jun 13, 2022 1:57 pm

I'd like it if they still made the P-50
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Re: Does anyone know if the Aca sirens are still made

Mon Jun 13, 2022 3:42 pm

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I'd like it if they still made the P-50
It's an overall inefficient design.
For one, it weighs half a ton. Literally. It's about 1000 pounds. That makes it need to be lifted with a very big crane and puts a lot of stress on the rotator, making it prone to rotator failure (even though I've seen a very low amount of P-50s with rotator failures).
For two, it's 50hp. A motor that big draws 65 amps while running on 480V. And that's running. I don't know what the starting amp draw is, but it's probably a lot.
And, ASC has the T-135ACDC, which has a similar output but has battery backup.
If they still sold it, it'd likely have the same fate as the 10V2T, and be discontinued because of not enough purchases, because it's three phase 480, and that power isn't exactly cheap to have installed.
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