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Need Help identifying siren...

Mon Jul 11, 2022 7:44 pm

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I got a call today that someone had brought in a "firehouse siren" to the scrap yard. The guy that worked there hated to see it get scrapped and wanted to know if I would come rescue it. I did, but I have no idea exactly what it is. It appears similar to a Champion or a Sterling M-10, but does not look identical to either one. Does anyone have any ideas???
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Re: Need Help identifying siren...

Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:41 pm

This siren is a Federal Electric Type B.
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Re: Need Help identifying siren...

Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:13 pm

Thanks for the help identifying! Now the search for info on the model B siren begins....
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Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:29 pm

Indeed that is a Federal Electric Model B
Yours appears to be missing the motor cover
Here is a inactive Type B in Butler, MO
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Re: Need Help identifying siren...

Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:06 pm

First generation Federal Electric Type B siren. I believe they were made somewhere around 1910-1920 before they were redesigned, and then redesigned a third time around the 1930s.
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Re: Need Help identifying siren...

Tue Jul 12, 2022 12:49 am

Nice find! Does it spin freely?
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Re: Need Help identifying siren...

Tue Jul 12, 2022 11:17 am

Unfortunately it does NOT spin freely. From the looks of it, I would say the cover has been missing for quite some time. The tag from the motor is long gone, but I see it has three wires coming from it. Does this mean it was a single phase unit (I'm used to three phase units having four wires), or did the three phase units of this era have only three wires and ground to the chassis?
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Re: Need Help identifying siren...

Tue Jul 19, 2022 10:05 am

More than likely 3 phase. Every siren I own is 2 wire single phase or "3" wire 3 phase
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Re: Need Help identifying siren...

Sat Jul 23, 2022 3:39 pm

Given the age of the motor, there’s a slim chance it’s 2 phase, an outdated form of AC power.
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Fri Aug 12, 2022 5:27 pm

This is a first generation Federal Electric Type B. They debut circa 1915. They came mostly 3 phase, rarely single phase, and went through at least 2 design changes through the 1930's when they were discontinued, but all were vertical and almost all were dual head 3 phase. They were replaced by the c3 1/2 which eventually evolved into the model X by the 1940s.
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