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Re: Ginna Nuclear power plant siren replacement

Wed Sep 07, 2022 3:36 pm

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On July 27TH 2022, I got a special chance to watch One of the Ginna power plants ACA P-10's get replaced. The P-10 was Siren 77 located at the Williamson Fire department in Williamson NY. The siren was replaced due to it having a broken intake and rotator issues, I recorded this siren in May for it's yearly test and it was the final test ever for the siren. The brand New ASC T-128 was installed by ANS, I got to see the P-10 up close and I got to keep the control box while another friend of mine got the ASC radio for it. Here are some pictures of the replacement And P-10

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Wait, what about that 3T22 or 3T22A right next to it? Did that get removed as well? Also when will they put back up the P-10 or is it just gone forever and the T128 just took its position? If it is gone forever then, R.I.P ACA P-10 ????-2022
The T-128 replaced the P-10 permanently. Ginna is a nuclear system so it's honestly a miracle that the siren even existed that long. The Nuclear Regulatory Commission requires that all nuclear sirens have battery backup, and plants will get fined if they do not have them. Every other nuclear system in the US has switched to battery backup. The 3T22 is a fire siren, so it's not likely to get removed unless the fire department decides to.
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Re: Ginna Nuclear power plant siren replacement

Wed Sep 07, 2022 7:59 pm

Backup power is not actually mandated for nuclear sirens as per NUREG-0654 Revision 1 Supplement 4.
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Re: Ginna Nuclear power plant siren replacement

Thu Sep 08, 2022 11:26 am

SamtheSirenMan(531) wrote:
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Backup power is not actually mandated for nuclear sirens as per NUREG-0654 Revision 1 Supplement 4.
wait really? i was always under the impression that it was a requirement.
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Re: Ginna Nuclear power plant siren replacement

Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:03 pm

The reason most nuke plants upgraded was probably just the age of their old systems. Ginna went with Penetrator and Banshee sirens which last a while so they have only been replacing on a case-by-case basis, I've heard the single phase ones have been more problematic. There is one official regulation that mandates backup power for sirens in the Energy Policy Act of 2005, stating that "For any licensed nuclear power plants located where
there is a permanent population, as determined by the 2000 decennial census, in excess of 15,000,000 within a 50-mile radius of the power plant, not later than 18 months after enactment of this Act, the Commission shall require that backup power to be available for the emergency notification system of the power plant, including the emergency siren warning system,", however this has only ever applied to one site as far as I know, Indian Point, which is now shut down.
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Re: Ginna Nuclear power plant siren replacement

Tue Sep 20, 2022 3:58 pm

dat612freakoftoday wrote:
Tue Sep 06, 2022 11:14 pm
Jacob boland wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 5:17 pm
On July 27TH 2022, I got a special chance to watch One of the Ginna power plants ACA P-10's get replaced. The P-10 was Siren 77 located at the Williamson Fire department in Williamson NY. The siren was replaced due to it having a broken intake and rotator issues, I recorded this siren in May for it's yearly test and it was the final test ever for the siren. The brand New ASC T-128 was installed by ANS, I got to see the P-10 up close and I got to keep the control box while another friend of mine got the ASC radio for it. Here are some pictures of the replacement And P-10

Image Image Image
Wait, what about that 3T22 or 3T22A right next to it? Did that get removed as well? Also when will they put back up the P-10 or is it just gone forever and the T128 just took its position? If it is gone forever then, R.I.P ACA P-10 ????-2022
The 3T22 is still there as an Active fire siren. I heard it go off back in August. yeah the P-10 is Long gone. It apparently is in NJ near Philadelphia as of now.

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Re: Ginna Nuclear power plant siren replacement

Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:22 pm

Jacob boland wrote:
Tue Sep 20, 2022 3:58 pm
dat612freakoftoday wrote:
Tue Sep 06, 2022 11:14 pm
Jacob boland wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 5:17 pm
On July 27TH 2022, I got a special chance to watch One of the Ginna power plants ACA P-10's get replaced. The P-10 was Siren 77 located at the Williamson Fire department in Williamson NY. The siren was replaced due to it having a broken intake and rotator issues, I recorded this siren in May for it's yearly test and it was the final test ever for the siren. The brand New ASC T-128 was installed by ANS, I got to see the P-10 up close and I got to keep the control box while another friend of mine got the ASC radio for it. Here are some pictures of the replacement And P-10

Image Image Image
Wait, what about that 3T22 or 3T22A right next to it? Did that get removed as well? Also when will they put back up the P-10 or is it just gone forever and the T128 just took its position? If it is gone forever then, R.I.P ACA P-10 ????-2022
The 3T22 is still there as an Active fire siren. I heard it go off back in August. yeah the P-10 is Long gone. It apparently is in NJ near Philadelphia as of now.
Darn.
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Re: Ginna Nuclear power plant siren replacement

Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:01 pm

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Jacob boland wrote:
Tue Sep 20, 2022 3:58 pm
dat612freakoftoday wrote:
Tue Sep 06, 2022 11:14 pm


Wait, what about that 3T22 or 3T22A right next to it? Did that get removed as well? Also when will they put back up the P-10 or is it just gone forever and the T128 just took its position? If it is gone forever then, R.I.P ACA P-10 ????-2022
The 3T22 is still there as an Active fire siren. I heard it go off back in August. yeah the P-10 is Long gone. It apparently is in NJ near Philadelphia as of now.
Darn.
In fact, I actually spoke with the maintenance guy about the P-10 and banshee that were replaced last month and he said they were both put in a Dumpster. They said they are keeping them for parts Which is Not true.

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Re: Ginna Nuclear power plant siren replacement

Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:54 pm

Jacob boland wrote:
Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:01 pm
dat612freakoftoday wrote:
Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:22 pm
Jacob boland wrote:
Tue Sep 20, 2022 3:58 pm

The 3T22 is still there as an Active fire siren. I heard it go off back in August. yeah the P-10 is Long gone. It apparently is in NJ near Philadelphia as of now.
Darn.
In fact, I actually spoke with the maintenance guy about the P-10 and banshee that were replaced last month and he said they were both put in a Dumpster. They said they are keeping them for parts Which is Not true.
Damn shame

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Re: Ginna Nuclear power plant siren replacement

Sun Sep 25, 2022 8:25 pm

Most manufacturers do not want sirens going to collectors not out of fear of the collectors setting them off, but due to it possibly costing them a sale. If they can make sure old sirens or the siren part of the old sirens are disposed of it guarantees that it can't take away from a future $22,000 sale...
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Re: Ginna Nuclear power plant siren replacement

Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:43 am

FSThunderboltfan1000 wrote:
Sun Sep 25, 2022 8:25 pm
Most manufacturers do not want sirens going to collectors not out of fear of the collectors setting them off, but due to it possibly costing them a sale. If they can make sure old sirens or the siren part of the old sirens are disposed of it guarantees that it can't take away from a future $22,000 sale...
Which is a damn shame, since them going to collectors or not wont get a 22k Sale costed.
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